Missing Template Error (404)

I am closing in on having solved all the inconsistencies between cf9 to
Lucee from a migration done a few months ago.

One of the few remaining items is the setting in the cfadmin for Missing
Template (404).

The small text below the setting states the following:

Template that will be invoked in case of a missing error. This setting can
be overridden by the tag CFError.

which I believe is causing the issues that I wish to solve.

Our system makes use of the CFERROR tag to trap bugs and have them emailed
to an admin for review.
Unlike CF9, it would appear that missing files (mostly due to junk urls)
are being caught by the CFERROR tag rather than the
missing template setting which causes an overabundance of inconsequential
error emails that is very distracting to finding real error reports.

for example:
http://www.evernote.com/shard/s349/sh/929c9965-4bf5-4f76-9a7b-42a91fa4eae1/fbec1e050b497a861f0c1bd1ed2ea1dc
across 50+ clients, we get 100’s of such emails a day that I wish to
suppress.

I though about adding a test snippet inside of our error template that
would trap “the missing file” error and send it to our 404 page, BUT
I would like to distinguish those generated by bad urls from those that
could be “real” missing errors made by developers like a missing cfinclude
etc…

Can anyone think of a way to accomplish what I want which is really have
these handled by the missing template file.

On that note and out of curiosity,. How is it that googlebot and others
are attempting to index urls by injecting the word “mobile” or “m” into
the url?

We have never had such a mapping or folder ever in our system; we don’t
have a mobile compliant version of our sites
… and we have a site index map in the webroot which clearly states the
pages that we would like to have indexed.

The amount of “faked” urls that we get is really unbelievable and I don’t
understand the motivation behind it.

here are some other examples:

http://www.4semi.com/ http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfmSemi.com
http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfm/register.cfm
http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfm * >> “semi.com” injected
between the domain and the script page *

http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com
http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1 >>
plus.com” injected in the url
http://www.vacequip.com/ http://www.vacequip.com/ful_inf.htmful_inf.htm
http://www.vacequip.com/ful_inf.htm >> *never had a page by this name?? *

http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com
http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1

etc…

Thanks for any help

Scott

it would appear that missing files (mostly due to junk urls)
are being caught by the CFERROR tag rather than the
missing template setting

Have you tested this theory? Properly identifying the problem is the first step to problem solving, so if I were you, I would find out FOR SURE if this is what’s happening.–
Kind regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies

----- Original Message -----
From: “Scott Conklin” <@Scott_Conklin>
To: “Lucee” lucee@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 8:13:33 AM
Subject: [Lucee] Missing Template Error (404)

I am closing in on having solved all the inconsistencies between cf9 to
Lucee from a migration done a few months ago.

One of the few remaining items is the setting in the cfadmin for Missing
Template (404).

The small text below the setting states the following:

Template that will be invoked in case of a missing error. This setting can
be overridden by the tag CFError.

which I believe is causing the issues that I wish to solve.

Our system makes use of the CFERROR tag to trap bugs and have them emailed
to an admin for review.
Unlike CF9, it would appear that missing files (mostly due to junk urls)
are being caught by the CFERROR tag rather than the
missing template setting which causes an overabundance of inconsequential
error emails that is very distracting to finding real error reports.

for example:
http://www.evernote.com/shard/s349/sh/929c9965-4bf5-4f76-9a7b-42a91fa4eae1/fbec1e050b497a861f0c1bd1ed2ea1dc
across 50+ clients, we get 100’s of such emails a day that I wish to
suppress.

I though about adding a test snippet inside of our error template that
would trap “the missing file” error and send it to our 404 page, BUT
I would like to distinguish those generated by bad urls from those that
could be “real” missing errors made by developers like a missing cfinclude
etc…

Can anyone think of a way to accomplish what I want which is really have
these handled by the missing template file.

On that note and out of curiosity,. How is it that googlebot and others
are attempting to index urls by injecting the word “mobile” or “m” into
the url?

We have never had such a mapping or folder ever in our system; we don’t
have a mobile compliant version of our sites
… and we have a site index map in the webroot which clearly states the
pages that we would like to have indexed.

The amount of “faked” urls that we get is really unbelievable and I don’t
understand the motivation behind it.

here are some other examples:

http://www.4semi.com/ http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfmSemi.com
http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfm/register.cfm
http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfm * >> “semi.com” injected
between the domain and the script page *

http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com
http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1 >>
plus.com” injected in the url
http://www.vacequip.com/ http://www.vacequip.com/ful_inf.htmful_inf.htm
http://www.vacequip.com/ful_inf.htm >> *never had a page by this name?? *

http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com
http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1

etc…

Thanks for any help

Scott


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Yes. I am 100% sure this happening… otherwise I would not be getting these
in the emails that I show in my screenshot link.
Those emails (with the light blue background) are generated in the error
template specified in the CFERROR tag.On Friday, June 3, 2016 at 3:08:58 PM UTC-5, Jordan Michaels wrote:

it would appear that missing files (mostly due to junk urls)
are being caught by the CFERROR tag rather than the
missing template setting

Have you tested this theory? Properly identifying the problem is the first
step to problem solving, so if I were you, I would find out FOR SURE if
this is what’s happening.


Kind regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies

----- Original Message -----
From: “Scott Conklin” <scon...@dynaprice.net <javascript:>>
To: “Lucee” <lu...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 8:13:33 AM
Subject: [Lucee] Missing Template Error (404)

I am closing in on having solved all the inconsistencies between cf9 to
Lucee from a migration done a few months ago.

One of the few remaining items is the setting in the cfadmin for Missing
Template (404).

The small text below the setting states the following:

Template that will be invoked in case of a missing error. This setting can
be overridden by the tag CFError.

which I believe is causing the issues that I wish to solve.

Our system makes use of the CFERROR tag to trap bugs and have them emailed
to an admin for review.
Unlike CF9, it would appear that missing files (mostly due to junk urls)
are being caught by the CFERROR tag rather than the
missing template setting which causes an overabundance of inconsequential
error emails that is very distracting to finding real error reports.

for example:

http://www.evernote.com/shard/s349/sh/929c9965-4bf5-4f76-9a7b-42a91fa4eae1/fbec1e050b497a861f0c1bd1ed2ea1dc
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com%2Fshard%2Fs349%2Fsh%2F929c9965-4bf5-4f76-9a7b-42a91fa4eae1%2Ffbec1e050b497a861f0c1bd1ed2ea1dc&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFNtzB52XK8dRvrDmuoYYXbof1dnw
across 50+ clients, we get 100’s of such emails a day that I wish to
suppress.

I though about adding a test snippet inside of our error template that
would trap “the missing file” error and send it to our 404 page, BUT
I would like to distinguish those generated by bad urls from those that
could be “real” missing errors made by developers like a missing
cfinclude
etc…

Can anyone think of a way to accomplish what I want which is really have
these handled by the missing template file.

On that note and out of curiosity,. How is it that googlebot and others
are attempting to index urls by injecting the word “mobile” or “m” into
the url?

We have never had such a mapping or folder ever in our system; we don’t
have a mobile compliant version of our sites
… and we have a site index map in the webroot which clearly states the
pages that we would like to have indexed.

The amount of “faked” urls that we get is really unbelievable and I don’t
understand the motivation behind it.

here are some other examples:

http://www.4semi.com/ http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfmSemi.com

http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfm/register.cfm
http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfm * >> “semi.com” injected
between the domain and the script page *

http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com
<
http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1>

/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
<
http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1>

plus.com” injected in the url
http://www.vacequip.com/ http://www.vacequip.com/ful_inf.htmful_inf.htm
http://www.vacequip.com/ful_inf.htm >> *never had a page by this
name?? *

http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com
<
http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1>

/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
<
http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1>

etc…

Thanks for any help

Scott


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Anyone?On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 10:13:33 AM UTC-5, Scott Conklin wrote:

I am closing in on having solved all the inconsistencies between cf9 to
Lucee from a migration done a few months ago.

One of the few remaining items is the setting in the cfadmin for Missing
Template (404).

The small text below the setting states the following:

Template that will be invoked in case of a missing error. This setting can
be overridden by the tag CFError.

which I believe is causing the issues that I wish to solve.

Our system makes use of the CFERROR tag to trap bugs and have them emailed
to an admin for review.
Unlike CF9, it would appear that missing files (mostly due to junk urls)
are being caught by the CFERROR tag rather than the
missing template setting which causes an overabundance of inconsequential
error emails that is very distracting to finding real error reports.

for example:
http://www.evernote.com/shard/s349/sh/929c9965-4bf5-4f76-9a7b-42a91fa4eae1/fbec1e050b497a861f0c1bd1ed2ea1dc
across 50+ clients, we get 100’s of such emails a day that I wish to
suppress.

I though about adding a test snippet inside of our error template that
would trap “the missing file” error and send it to our 404 page, BUT
I would like to distinguish those generated by bad urls from those that
could be “real” missing errors made by developers like a missing cfinclude
etc…

Can anyone think of a way to accomplish what I want which is really have
these handled by the missing template file.

On that note and out of curiosity,. How is it that googlebot and others
are attempting to index urls by injecting the word “mobile” or “m” into
the url?

We have never had such a mapping or folder ever in our system; we don’t
have a mobile compliant version of our sites
… and we have a site index map in the webroot which clearly states the
pages that we would like to have indexed.

The amount of “faked” urls that we get is really unbelievable and I don’t
understand the motivation behind it.

here are some other examples:

http://www.4semi.com/ http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfmSemi.com
http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfm/register.cfm
http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfm * >> “semi.com
http://semi.com” injected between the domain and the script page *

http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com
http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1 >>
plus.com” injected in the url
http://www.vacequip.com/ http://www.vacequip.com/ful_inf.htmful_inf.htm
http://www.vacequip.com/ful_inf.htm >> *never had a page by this
name?? *

http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com
http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1

etc…

Thanks for any help

Scott

I don’t know the answer to your question, but the one about "word “mobile”
or “m” into the url? " makes me wonder
if they are doing that now because they give higher rankings to mobile
first sites.

It’s just awful what we have to deal with unnecessary traffic from Google,
bots, etc. I always start my sites with CFwheels simply because I just setup
strict routes for good pages and anything else that doesn’t match goes to
the garbage. I was thinking how great it would be to redirect a request
right back to the IPaddress that it came from. I don’t even care if the IP
address is faked, not my problem they hit me first. I’m sure other CF
frameworks
can do the same.

I know I didn’t answer your main question so I won’t hijack your thread
anymore:)

Scott,
I have two approaches that I would like to suggest
a) A CF based solution
A simple solution could be to just create a local db of all your cfm/cfc
files.
You can use a single page that uses cfdirectory with recurse attribute to
update your database after you deploy new code.
Now in your error template from get the called template from the cgi scope
and compare whether it exists on your server. If it does not, you can
redirect them to themselves or anywhere else. If it does, send the email
you normally send.

b) If you use IIS on Windows, you should be able to set IIS to intercept
anything that is not on your machine by changing the handler rules. Under
request-restrictions, there is a mapping tab - selecting “Invoke handler
only if request is mapped to file” is equivalent to “check if file exists”.
This will throw a standard IIS 404 error. You can change the error behavior
to point to anything else; google for IIS error handling for details.

HTH,
BilalOn Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 11:13:33 AM UTC-4, Scott Conklin wrote:

I am closing in on having solved all the inconsistencies between cf9 to
Lucee from a migration done a few months ago.

One of the few remaining items is the setting in the cfadmin for Missing
Template (404).

The small text below the setting states the following:

Template that will be invoked in case of a missing error. This setting can
be overridden by the tag CFError.

which I believe is causing the issues that I wish to solve.

Our system makes use of the CFERROR tag to trap bugs and have them emailed
to an admin for review.
Unlike CF9, it would appear that missing files (mostly due to junk urls)
are being caught by the CFERROR tag rather than the
missing template setting which causes an overabundance of inconsequential
error emails that is very distracting to finding real error reports.

for example:
http://www.evernote.com/shard/s349/sh/929c9965-4bf5-4f76-9a7b-42a91fa4eae1/fbec1e050b497a861f0c1bd1ed2ea1dc
across 50+ clients, we get 100’s of such emails a day that I wish to
suppress.

I though about adding a test snippet inside of our error template that
would trap “the missing file” error and send it to our 404 page, BUT
I would like to distinguish those generated by bad urls from those that
could be “real” missing errors made by developers like a missing cfinclude
etc…

Can anyone think of a way to accomplish what I want which is really have
these handled by the missing template file.

On that note and out of curiosity,. How is it that googlebot and others
are attempting to index urls by injecting the word “mobile” or “m” into
the url?

We have never had such a mapping or folder ever in our system; we don’t
have a mobile compliant version of our sites
… and we have a site index map in the webroot which clearly states the
pages that we would like to have indexed.

The amount of “faked” urls that we get is really unbelievable and I don’t
understand the motivation behind it.

here are some other examples:

http://www.4semi.com/ http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfmSemi.com
http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfm/register.cfm
http://www.4semi.com/Semi.com/register.cfm * >> “semi.com
http://semi.com” injected between the domain and the script page *

http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com
http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
http://www.mmrsurplus.com/plus.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1 >>
plus.com” injected in the url
http://www.vacequip.com/ http://www.vacequip.com/ful_inf.htmful_inf.htm
http://www.vacequip.com/ful_inf.htm >> *never had a page by this
name?? *

http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com
http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1
http://www.labjupiter.com/iter.com/register.cfm?menuid=m&NewReg=1&subject=1

etc…

Thanks for any help

Scott

Bilal-

Thank you very much. option b. worked perfectly… exactly what I was
looking for.

Does anyone know of any such option for Apache? Also want to note that I
have the exact same problem with 404’s only for cfm’s. Can this be fixed
somehow with tomcat? Clearly intentions of the admin design were for this
to work without each of us maintaining a db of valid files and checking it
every hit. Should this be added as a bug?On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 11:27:26 AM UTC-5, Scott Conklin wrote:

Bilal-

Thank you very much. option b. worked perfectly… exactly what I was
looking for.