I had previously been on a acf 9 enterprise server that was taken offline
so now I am running on a new server with acf11 and lucee 4.5.
I’m tasked with sending out 2 newsletters a month, that hit 100k people
each. Each newsletter is customized and sent via cfmail. I basically run
through queries of 5000 records at a time and reload the page with a
javascript refresh until all 100k records are done.
On CF9 ent cfadmin, I was able to check the keep connection alive, and work
it up to 40 connections at a time with the mail settings. I would be able
to send 100k emails in about 45 minutes to an hour.
When I initially tried acf11 standard to find that its mail is single
threaded and would take days to send the 100k records and cause a bottle
neck with the rest of the outgoing emails on the server…
I then installed Lucee. I’m getting better performance then with acf11
standard, but still kind of slow.I’ve got it sending out about 300 messages
a minute.
I went into Lucee server and web admin, turned it from 20 up to 40 maximum
concurrent threads… restarted, and then up to 60, restarted, and then up
to 100 and restarted… I tried throwing more ram at it… and the
performance I get with 20, seems to be the same performance I get with
100… so I’m basically wondering if the concurrent tasks listed in
server/web admin even have an affect on mail sending?
The remote-client/open folder, reached a maximum of 95k messages and has
been working for the last 6+ hours to bring it down… but I was wondering
if there is any other setting that I should look at for increasing the
speed it sends out.
I have always been connecting to sendgrid to send my messages on both
cf9ent and lucee.
Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
At a previous company We had similar issues with mass emails.
My solution was to create a relay server to handle the actual delivery of
mail.
A little postfix server with 1GB of memory was more than enough to handle
25K mails an hour sustained.On Thursday, April 23, 2015 at 10:35:28 PM UTC-4, Steven Weiner wrote:
I had previously been on a acf 9 enterprise server that was taken offline
so now I am running on a new server with acf11 and lucee 4.5.
I’m tasked with sending out 2 newsletters a month, that hit 100k people
each. Each newsletter is customized and sent via cfmail. I basically run
through queries of 5000 records at a time and reload the page with a
javascript refresh until all 100k records are done.
On CF9 ent cfadmin, I was able to check the keep connection alive, and
work it up to 40 connections at a time with the mail settings. I would be
able to send 100k emails in about 45 minutes to an hour.
When I initially tried acf11 standard to find that its mail is single
threaded and would take days to send the 100k records and cause a bottle
neck with the rest of the outgoing emails on the server…
I then installed Lucee. I’m getting better performance then with acf11
standard, but still kind of slow.I’ve got it sending out about 300 messages
a minute.
I went into Lucee server and web admin, turned it from 20 up to 40 maximum
concurrent threads… restarted, and then up to 60, restarted, and then up
to 100 and restarted… I tried throwing more ram at it… and the
performance I get with 20, seems to be the same performance I get with
100… so I’m basically wondering if the concurrent tasks listed in
server/web admin even have an affect on mail sending?
The remote-client/open folder, reached a maximum of 95k messages and has
been working for the last 6+ hours to bring it down… but I was wondering
if there is any other setting that I should look at for increasing the
speed it sends out.
I have always been connecting to sendgrid to send my messages on both
cf9ent and lucee.
Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
we are aware of this and it is on our to do list to improve this.
MichaOn Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:35 AM, Steven Weiner <@Steven_Weiner> wrote:
I had previously been on a acf 9 enterprise server that was taken offline
so now I am running on a new server with acf11 and lucee 4.5.
I’m tasked with sending out 2 newsletters a month, that hit 100k people
each. Each newsletter is customized and sent via cfmail. I basically run
through queries of 5000 records at a time and reload the page with a
javascript refresh until all 100k records are done.
On CF9 ent cfadmin, I was able to check the keep connection alive, and
work it up to 40 connections at a time with the mail settings. I would be
able to send 100k emails in about 45 minutes to an hour.
When I initially tried acf11 standard to find that its mail is single
threaded and would take days to send the 100k records and cause a bottle
neck with the rest of the outgoing emails on the server…
I then installed Lucee. I’m getting better performance then with acf11
standard, but still kind of slow.I’ve got it sending out about 300 messages
a minute.
I went into Lucee server and web admin, turned it from 20 up to 40 maximum
concurrent threads… restarted, and then up to 60, restarted, and then up
to 100 and restarted… I tried throwing more ram at it… and the
performance I get with 20, seems to be the same performance I get with
100… so I’m basically wondering if the concurrent tasks listed in
server/web admin even have an affect on mail sending?
The remote-client/open folder, reached a maximum of 95k messages and has
been working for the last 6+ hours to bring it down… but I was wondering
if there is any other setting that I should look at for increasing the
speed it sends out.
I have always been connecting to sendgrid to send my messages on both
cf9ent and lucee.
Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
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i assume the following is the problem, Lucee makes sure to reuse connection
to the server and does open/close the connection for every mail, what is a
good thing. But maybe Lucee is using only one connnection for all this
threads?
I will check that …
MichaOn Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Michael Offner <@Michael_Offner> wrote:
we are aware of this and it is on our to do list to improve this.
Micha
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:35 AM, Steven Weiner <@Steven_Weiner> wrote:
I had previously been on a acf 9 enterprise server that was taken offline
so now I am running on a new server with acf11 and lucee 4.5.
I’m tasked with sending out 2 newsletters a month, that hit 100k people
each. Each newsletter is customized and sent via cfmail. I basically run
through queries of 5000 records at a time and reload the page with a
javascript refresh until all 100k records are done.
On CF9 ent cfadmin, I was able to check the keep connection alive, and
work it up to 40 connections at a time with the mail settings. I would be
able to send 100k emails in about 45 minutes to an hour.
When I initially tried acf11 standard to find that its mail is single
threaded and would take days to send the 100k records and cause a bottle
neck with the rest of the outgoing emails on the server…
I then installed Lucee. I’m getting better performance then with acf11
standard, but still kind of slow.I’ve got it sending out about 300 messages
a minute.
I went into Lucee server and web admin, turned it from 20 up to 40
maximum concurrent threads… restarted, and then up to 60, restarted, and
then up to 100 and restarted… I tried throwing more ram at it… and
the performance I get with 20, seems to be the same performance I get with
100… so I’m basically wondering if the concurrent tasks listed in
server/web admin even have an affect on mail sending?
The remote-client/open folder, reached a maximum of 95k messages and has
been working for the last 6+ hours to bring it down… but I was wondering
if there is any other setting that I should look at for increasing the
speed it sends out.
I have always been connecting to sendgrid to send my messages on both
cf9ent and lucee.
Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
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