It’s been a while since I had to define more than one mail server on my
Cold Fusion server. My recollection (from way, way, back) is that, if I
defined the servers in the administrator, I should be able to use
server=“server name” as a cfmail attribute and that mail would go out using
the selected server (and the associated credentials in the administrator).
However, it appears that, if I use the server attribute in the code, I also
have to define a username and password, which would defeat the purpose of
defining the servers in the administrator.
The administrator says:
You can define more than one mail server. When sending an email, Lucee
tries to send the mail with the first defined mail server. If the send
operation fails, Lucee will continue using the next mail server in the list.
Am I mistaken about how to use multiple SMTP servers in Lucee? If I want to
use a specific SMTP server in my code, do I have to define the server,
username, and password, too?
Thanks.
The tag CFMAIL supports server, so you could have a condition that chooses
the server.
You could use a smart host or define AAA records and point to a server
cluster for your external mail
Far as I remember you can setup a different connector per instance, though
it seems cleaner from a sys admin stand point, its usually easier from a
programming stand point to just define the mail server in the
Application.cfcOn Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 2:36:54 PM UTC-4, Juan Aguilar wrote:
It’s been a while since I had to define more than one mail server on my
Cold Fusion server. My recollection (from way, way, back) is that, if I
defined the servers in the administrator, I should be able to use
server=“server name” as a cfmail attribute and that mail would go out using
the selected server (and the associated credentials in the administrator).
However, it appears that, if I use the server attribute in the code, I
also have to define a username and password, which would defeat the purpose
of defining the servers in the administrator.
The administrator says:
You can define more than one mail server. When sending an email, Lucee
tries to send the mail with the first defined mail server. If the send
operation fails, Lucee will continue using the next mail server in the list.
Am I mistaken about how to use multiple SMTP servers in Lucee? If I want
to use a specific SMTP server in my code, do I have to define the server,
username, and password, too?
Thanks.
Bit of a different use case.
I’d like to use one SMTP server for external e-mails and another for
internal e-mails. I thought I could do the following:
and
Both externalmail.website.com and internalmail.website.com are set and
verified in the administrator, with externalmail listed first.
Now, if I send mail without the server attribute, it all gets sent via
externalmail.website.com. I expect that.
But, both of the cases above fail. The
/WEB-INF/lucee/remote-client/open/*.tsk file is harder to read but I
definitely see:
530 Authentication required
which suggests to me that the cfmail tag is not picking up the
administrator credentials when the server attribute is set. This may be how
cfmail works in Lucee and I have a very old memory of how the tag used to
work.
In order for the above to work, I would have to set the username and
password attributes in the code, which I am trying to avoid, if possible.On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 2:54:13 PM UTC-4, Terry Whitney wrote:
The tag CFMAIL supports server, so you could have a condition that chooses
the server.
You could use a smart host or define AAA records and point to a server
cluster for your external mail
Far as I remember you can setup a different connector per instance, though
it seems cleaner from a sys admin stand point, its usually easier from a
programming stand point to just define the mail server in the
Application.cfc
Thanks, Terry,
Unfortunately, this isn’t a network security issue. Cold Fusion (the
server, not the language) used to allow you to specify a server in the
CFMAIL tag and, if that server was designated in the administrator, then it
would use the credentials setup there to send the message.
Lucee also allows you to specify a server in the CFMAIL tag but does not
cross-reference to see if that server is already setup in the
administrator. Consequently, if you want to use different SMTP servers and
those SMTP servers require authentication, then using the server attribute
means you have to specify the username and password in the CFMAIL tag, too.
Otherwise, you get the “530 Authentication required” response back from the
SMTP server.
Since my preference would to not hardcode credentials, an enhancement
request would be for Lucee to check to see if the SMTP server designated in
the CFMAIL tag attribute is configured in the administrator prior to
queueing the message and, if so, using the administrator credentials for
SMTP authentication. I suppose a workaround would be to load the
credentials through a variable instead.
Thanks again.
Without going into great details about you network setup.
What you are asking for is not a Lucee issue, but how you have your email
server setup.
Go setup you inbound and outbound server(s) to allow access full access to
the lucee host.
I would suggest, if you are new to this, just allow internal interfaces to
communicate between the three in this manor to minimize any potential
security risks.On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 2:36:54 PM UTC-4, Juan Aguilar wrote:
It’s been a while since I had to define more than one mail server on my
Cold Fusion server. My recollection (from way, way, back) is that, if I
defined the servers in the administrator, I should be able to use
server=“server name” as a cfmail attribute and that mail would go out using
the selected server (and the associated credentials in the administrator).
However, it appears that, if I use the server attribute in the code, I
also have to define a username and password, which would defeat the purpose
of defining the servers in the administrator.
The administrator says:
You can define more than one mail server. When sending an email, Lucee
tries to send the mail with the first defined mail server. If the send
operation fails, Lucee will continue using the next mail server in the list.
Am I mistaken about how to use multiple SMTP servers in Lucee? If I want
to use a specific SMTP server in my code, do I have to define the server,
username, and password, too?
Thanks.
I find the discrepancy of how mail servers can’t have a name, but
datasources can in CFML inconsistent also.
I’ve proposed messagesource and other message based implementations in the
past also (for about 5 versions of CFML), however the powers to be at Adobe
(some of which are now Lucee powers to be) were to narrow minded to take
the server admin forward. all admins are stuck in 2005 IMHO.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/lucee/mailsource/lucee/-WsoEVIUKOc/h6tiuycDDLIJ
Regards,
Chris DawesOn Friday, 23 October 2015 05:36:54 UTC+11, Juan Aguilar wrote:
It’s been a while since I had to define more than one mail server on my
Cold Fusion server. My recollection (from way, way, back) is that, if I
defined the servers in the administrator, I should be able to use
server=“server name” as a cfmail attribute and that mail would go out using
the selected server (and the associated credentials in the administrator).
However, it appears that, if I use the server attribute in the code, I
also have to define a username and password, which would defeat the purpose
of defining the servers in the administrator.
The administrator says:
You can define more than one mail server. When sending an email, Lucee
tries to send the mail with the first defined mail server. If the send
operation fails, Lucee will continue using the next mail server in the list.
Am I mistaken about how to use multiple SMTP servers in Lucee? If I want
to use a specific SMTP server in my code, do I have to define the server,
username, and password, too?
Thanks.
Here is Adam Cameron’s response (just to reignite this as a real value add
to the server)