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I’m trying to convince a potential client to go with a Railo solution (have
been talking with him for months).
His latest question has to do with scale: can it handle 10,000 users at
once?

Are there any metrics on ColdFusion, vs. Railo vs. Lucee regarding a heavy
load?

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Generally speaking, all the CFML engines scale as good as Java, and the JVM
is one of the best platforms for scalability that there is. For instance,
Twitter switched from ROR to Java and heavily reduced the number of servers
they needed. Surely you’re not expecting to have 10k concurrent users on a
single Lucee instance, of course.

To be honest though, using Lucee is the easy decision. The real question
is how you have architected your application, your database, your shared
resources/locking schemes, your session storage, etc, etc, etc. Will THEY
handle 10,000 users? That’s up to you.

Thanks!

~Brad

ColdBox Platform Evangelist
*Ortus Solutions, Corp *

E-mail: brad@coldbox.org
ColdBox Platform: http://www.coldbox.org
Blog: http://www.codersrevolution.comOn Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Phillip Senn <@Phillip_Senn> wrote:

I’m trying to convince a potential client to go with a Railo solution
(have been talking with him for months).
His latest question has to do with scale: can it handle 10,000 users at
once?

Are there any metrics on ColdFusion, vs. Railo vs. Lucee regarding a heavy
load?

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Right.
He’s a database developer, so he’s pretty confident he can handle any
database bottleneck.
I just know he won’t be convinced until I show him a simulation of 10k
users hitting his MS SQL Server from my Railo server.

Everyone’s talking about cloud computing: Is it possible to spin up
something akin to an Amazon EC2 instance and simulate 10,000 users just to
see what the average response time is?

And this is a generic selling point. I think everyone would like to know
how their server would handle getting slash dotted or mentioned on a
national talk show.On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Brad Wood <@Brad_Wood> wrote:

Generally speaking, all the CFML engines scale as good as Java, and the
JVM is one of the best platforms for scalability that there is. For
instance, Twitter switched from ROR to Java and heavily reduced the number
of servers they needed. Surely you’re not expecting to have 10k concurrent
users on a single Lucee instance, of course.

To be honest though, using Lucee is the easy decision. The real question
is how you have architected your application, your database, your shared
resources/locking schemes, your session storage, etc, etc, etc. Will THEY
handle 10,000 users? That’s up to you.

Thanks!

~Brad

ColdBox Platform Evangelist
*Ortus Solutions, Corp *

E-mail: brad@coldbox.org
ColdBox Platform: http://www.coldbox.org
Blog: http://www.codersrevolution.com

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Phillip Senn <@Phillip_Senn> wrote:

I’m trying to convince a potential client to go with a Railo solution
(have been talking with him for months).
His latest question has to do with scale: can it handle 10,000 users at
once?

Are there any metrics on ColdFusion, vs. Railo vs. Lucee regarding a
heavy load?

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+1000

Mark Drew> On 2 Feb 2015, at 19:52, Brad Wood <@Brad_Wood> wrote:

Generally speaking, all the CFML engines scale as good as Java, and the JVM is one of the best platforms for scalability that there is. For instance, Twitter switched from ROR to Java and heavily reduced the number of servers they needed. Surely you’re not expecting to have 10k concurrent users on a single Lucee instance, of course.

To be honest though, using Lucee is the easy decision. The real question is how you have architected your application, your database, your shared resources/locking schemes, your session storage, etc, etc, etc. Will THEY handle 10,000 users? That’s up to you.

Thanks!

~Brad

ColdBox Platform Evangelist
Ortus Solutions, Corp

E-mail: brad@coldbox.org
ColdBox Platform: http://www.coldbox.org
Blog: http://www.codersrevolution.com

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Phillip Senn <@Phillip_Senn> wrote:
I’m trying to convince a potential client to go with a Railo solution (have been talking with him for months).
His latest question has to do with scale: can it handle 10,000 users at once?

Are there any metrics on ColdFusion, vs. Railo vs. Lucee regarding a heavy load?

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That looks like a very neat product.

Mark Drew> On 2 Feb 2015, at 21:19, Michael Sprague <@Michael_Sprague> wrote:

Not sure if this will fit your needs but could be worth a look; cloud-based load testing with 10,000 clients per test on the free plan.

http://loader.io/

I have nothing to do with the product/company but have used it on a Railo (now Lucee) Heroku app in the past.

Mike

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Jean Moniatte <@Jean_Moniatte> wrote:
Maybe give jmeter a try?

Merci,
Jean

Jean Moniatte
UGAL
http://fr.ugal.com

On Feb 2, 2015 9:00 PM, “Phillip Senn” <@Phillip_Senn> wrote:
Right.
He’s a database developer, so he’s pretty confident he can handle any database bottleneck.
I just know he won’t be convinced until I show him a simulation of 10k users hitting his MS SQL Server from my Railo server.

Everyone’s talking about cloud computing: Is it possible to spin up something akin to an Amazon EC2 instance and simulate 10,000 users just to see what the average response time is?

And this is a generic selling point. I think everyone would like to know how their server would handle getting slash dotted or mentioned on a national talk show.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Brad Wood <@Brad_Wood> wrote:
Generally speaking, all the CFML engines scale as good as Java, and the JVM is one of the best platforms for scalability that there is. For instance, Twitter switched from ROR to Java and heavily reduced the number of servers they needed. Surely you’re not expecting to have 10k concurrent users on a single Lucee instance, of course.

To be honest though, using Lucee is the easy decision. The real question is how you have architected your application, your database, your shared resources/locking schemes, your session storage, etc, etc, etc. Will THEY handle 10,000 users? That’s up to you.

Thanks!

~Brad

ColdBox Platform Evangelist
Ortus Solutions, Corp

E-mail: brad@coldbox.org
ColdBox Platform: http://www.coldbox.org
Blog: http://www.codersrevolution.com

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Phillip Senn <@Phillip_Senn> wrote:
I’m trying to convince a potential client to go with a Railo solution (have been talking with him for months).
His latest question has to do with scale: can it handle 10,000 users at once?

Are there any metrics on ColdFusion, vs. Railo vs. Lucee regarding a heavy load?

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