Gert - It wasn’t developed by the company, but by a third party who shall
remain nameless (unless they choose otherwise). In any case, this is
probably why you don’t remember the particular company, because it was a
third party you do know.
Igal - same goes for you. However, calling developers clueless is knocking
them. Regardless of what you know or don’t know… and perhaps that’s the
point - you don’t know anything more than what Adobe told you. You should
know to take anything Adobe spews out with a giant grain of salt.
Especially a marketing hit piece like this.
That being said, I’m not trying to have a pissing contest with anyone -
neither of you or anybody else. I was merely providing some context to the
discussion, which seemed to be lacking. My apologies if I stepped on some
toes - that wasn’t my intent.
– DennyOn Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 11:48:01 AM UTC-5, Igal wrote:
knocking quality developers simply based on this marketing piece
seems… I dunno… childish.
first of all, I didn’t knock anyone. I presented the logical
possibilities based on what I knew.
so I knew from personal experience that Lucee, and before it Railo, is
more scalable than ACF because I used to run ACF before I switched to
Railo. when I switched from ACF8 to Railo3 I managed to reduce my web farm
by two thirds for one application, simply because Railo required far less
resources.
I also knew that these guys didn’t come to us for help since I joined
Railo, so if that’s the case then these events took place a very long time
ago. the Adobe piece made it seem like this just happened now, so the most
logical explanation for me was that it wasn’t our engine.
if anything – then Adobe misrepresented the facts to the point where no
one could identify the case unless they knew this project by name – don’t
blame me for it.
Igal Sapir
Lucee Core Developer
Lucee.org http://lucee.org/
On 3/7/2015 6:17 AM, Gert Franz wrote:
Denny,
I honestly can’t remember these guys to ever reach out to us. And I
tried really hard. Well anyway. If the project is going well, they made the
right move…
Gert
Sent from somewhere on the road
Am 07.03.2015 um 13:02 schrieb Denard Springle <denard....@gmail.com
<javascript:>>:
I wonder which open source engine it was :-)
not ours if they experienced such issues… unless they are really
clueless on how things are supposed to work.
I know and have worked with the developers on the team that developed that
project. I can say, with all confidence, that they are not clueless
developers. It’s been a couple/few years since this all went down, so from
what I remember it was an early release of Railo, and they did have
scalability issues at the time. They also did reach out to the Railo team
at the time from what I recall and were still unable to resolve all the
issues. The move to ACF was not without its own share of issues, either -
scalability still being one of them. I wasn’t (officially) part of the
project so I’m speaking purely from memory and conjecture, but from what I
recall the move to ACF was done reluctantly. But, at the end of the day, it
ended up being the right move for that project, long-term, for lots of
reasons that have nothing to do with which engine it ran on.
That being said, Adobe is misrepresenting the nuance involved, but given
this is a marketing piece and not an actual evaluation of the differences
between the engines, and is a bit of a hatchet job against ‘open source’ in
general (which Adobe has been doing for years), it’s not very surprising.
Still, knocking quality developers simply based on this marketing piece
seems… I dunno… childish.
– Denny
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