Which is pretty much what we want to happen... If people won't use them why would we implement them?
DIdn't say it was Igal's pet project. However, it IS open source. Which means anyone can write whatever they want, at any time, and contribute it. I dare say even without your permission.
I'm not looking to pick fights, but I think most would agree that in the past 2 years TAG has accomplished very little, mainly because every discussion ends up exactly how this one has, and no one bothers to pick up the pieces and reach a decision like I'm trying to do. There's a reason Lucee now has a development project manager.
Not unreasonable questions - however, 2, 3, 4, and 5 are all subjective points which will never reach consensus. What is quality, productive, improvement, marketable etc is in the eye of the beholder.
1 has been demonstrated by a few snippets in this thread. I can imagine others.
Also subjective. No consensus. You live in MVC and Script. Great. DON'T USE IT.
I have over 2 MILLION lines of tagged CFML. Some is MVC. Some isn't. All my developers have differing skillsets. I can't wave a wand, and overnight have them think a completely different way, and do MVC in a vacuum, and rewrite everything in script. It won't happen. It can't happen. It's not cost effective for a business to pay for it to happen or expect it to happen.
And it doesn't HAVE to happen, because those 2 million lines of code WORK, and do what they were DESIGNED to do, and are READABLE for the people who have to maintain it, and the developers are PRODUCTIVE.
So whether you THINK it's crap code or not is completely immaterial to the discussion.
The fact you're comfortable with XML and XSLT is great, you can solve your XML problems however you want.
The assertion you'd never mix markup and script in a template is great, you can solve your problems however you want, write your code however you want and make it as "readable" as you want.
Not implementing a feature because YOU don't see the merit, again, I postulate no one here needs your permission. Your advice has been registered and heard.
My take on this is we have 130 some posts here and this is what I've got:
In support of the feature:
Those who provided constructive opinions but didn't put their support one way or another
I don't think it's fair to say that 4 dissenting opinions outweigh everyone elses.