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G’day:
I might also be good if - at least for the time being - people could ask
their Lucee coding questions on StackOverflow
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/Lucee, and their Lucee server
questions on ServerFault http://serverfault.com/questions/tagged/Lucee.
Obviously cross-ref them back to hear so people know to answer the
questions, but it’ll help get Lucee exposure there too.–
Adam

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Might be an opportunity to post some self-answered questions on ServerFault about switching from Railo to Lucee, upgrading, etc.On Feb 17, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Adam Cameron <@Adam_Cameron1> wrote:

G’day:
I might also be good if - at least for the time being - people could ask their Lucee coding questions on StackOverflow, and their Lucee server questions on ServerFault. Obviously cross-ref them back to hear so people know to answer the questions, but it’ll help get Lucee exposure there too.

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Adam

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I don’t have the requisite points on ServerFault either!

And that is why SO, etc., all suck ass. If I don’t like someone else’s
answer, I can ignore it. If someone else doesn’t like mine, I expect them
to do the same. Telling me that I can’t ask and/or answer a question
because I’ve not “scored enough points” is a non-starter for me. All those
stupid ass rules did was take forums - which are horrid enough on their own

  • and make them even worse.

It’s great for people who like making and following rules though.On Thursday, 19 February 2015 06:15:07 UTC+13, Matt Quackenbush wrote:

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Adam Cameron <dac...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:

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Some arse has now marked your questions as “off-topic”… god SO can is
shit pile some times…

Kind regards,

Andrew
about.me http://about.me/andrew_dixon
mso http://www.mso.net - Lucee http://lucee.org - MemberOn 18 February 2015 at 17:14, Matt Quackenbush <@Matt_Quackenbush> wrote:

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Adam Cameron <@Adam_Cameron1> wrote:

I don’t have the requisite points on ServerFault either!

And that is why SO, etc., all suck ass. If I don’t like someone else’s
answer, I can ignore it. If someone else doesn’t like mine, I expect them
to do the same. Telling me that I can’t ask and/or answer a question
because I’ve not “scored enough points” is a non-starter for me. All those
stupid ass rules did was take forums - which are horrid enough on their own

  • and make them even worse.

/rant

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I thought you shot me down for suggesting this a couple of weeks back!

I hardly “shot you down”, Mark: I just disagreed with you. Stop being such
a diva.

Also, I try not to set my opinions in stone, and try not to be black and
white about things. I don’t think using S/O as the mechanism for
answering Lucee questions, based on the lack of traction it got in the
larger, better establish Railo community before. This is why I advised
posting the questions there and here. However someone’s gotta do
something about getting the word about Lucee out there more. And the Lucee
bods don’t seem to be doing it, so I’m just racking my brains trying to
come up with ideas. S/O is an easy (if not earthshattering) win.

See? Not black and white. Multi-layered as fuck, me.On Friday, 20 February 2015 01:04:50 UTC+13, Mark Drew wrote:

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Adam

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I thought you shot me down for suggesting this a couple of weeks back!On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 11:55:56 PM UTC, Adam Cameron wrote:

G’day:
I might also be good if - at least for the time being - people could ask
their Lucee coding questions on StackOverflow
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/Lucee, and their Lucee server
questions on ServerFault http://serverfault.com/questions/tagged/Lucee.
Obviously cross-ref them back to hear so people know to answer the
questions, but it’ll help get Lucee exposure there too.

–
Adam

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Glad you like the answer!!!

BTW, your blog post is erroring:

key [MOUSEMOVEMENT] doesn’t exist

:slight_smile:

Kind regards,

Andrew
about.me http://about.me/andrew_dixon
mso http://www.mso.net - Lucee http://lucee.org - MemberOn 19 February 2015 at 10:22, Daniel Jansen <@Daniel_Jansen> wrote:

Not arse, HoplessN00b, well “Moderator” HopelessN00b apparently…

Sigh, one step forward, two steps back.

At least the answer was a good one.

I’ve blogged
http://blog.wdbb.com.au/cfml-mura-and-coding/serverfault-lucee-for-production-part-2/ about
it so that I can save a copy of the answer if it just gets deleted of
ServerFault.

So, do I attempt to “rewrite” my question in the hope it might get through
or just try again with something more specific?

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Some arse has now marked your questions as “off-topic”… god SO can is
shit pile some times…

Well it does violate their rules in the way described. Plus they gave
advice how to fix it. This is pretty good from a Stack Overlord.On Thursday, 19 February 2015 20:46:57 UTC+13, Andrew Dixon wrote:

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Not arse, HoplessN00b, well “Moderator” HopelessN00b apparently…

Sigh, one step forward, two steps back.

At least the answer was a good one.

I’ve blogged
http://blog.wdbb.com.au/cfml-mura-and-coding/serverfault-lucee-for-production-part-2/ about
it so that I can save a copy of the answer if it just gets deleted of
ServerFault.

So, do I attempt to “rewrite” my question in the hope it might get through
or just try again with something more specific?

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Adam never misses an opportunity to crush someone’s brilliant idea, man, you know that!

Doesn’t mean he’s unwilling to shift perspectives on the topic a few weeks later… :wink:

JFrom: lucee@googlegroups.com [mailto:lucee@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Drew
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 5:05 AM
To: lucee@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Lucee] Re: StackOverflow

I thought you shot me down for suggesting this a couple of weeks back!

On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 11:55:56 PM UTC, Adam Cameron wrote:

G’day:

I might also be good if - at least for the time being - people could ask their Lucee coding questions on StackOverflow http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/Lucee , and their Lucee server questions on ServerFault http://serverfault.com/questions/tagged/Lucee . Obviously cross-ref them back to hear so people know to answer the questions, but it’ll help get Lucee exposure there too.

…

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Well someone’s done that, but it looks like the 300 doesn’t actually
get a tag created - just allows putting it in the fecking review queue.

Can’t supply the description for the tag until that edit gets approved,
though once it has been then any registered user can propose tag edits
(which again get put into the review queue for approval). Takes 5k
on-site rep to approve those proposals and 20k not to need approval.

~sigh~

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Thanks Andrew,

Was due to updating to the Preview release of Mura 6.2. Mura uses
cfformprotect to help stop spam in forms and I had Accept Comments switched
on and the config file for this was corrupted in the upgrade. Bit of an
effort in troubleshooting it this morning. The guys at Mura were good
though.

Blogged my process
here: http://blog.wdbb.com.au/cfml-mura-and-coding/mura-v6-2-preview-error-500-key-mousemovement-doesn-t-exist/

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I thought you shot me down for suggesting this a couple of weeks back!

I hardly “shot you down”, Mark: I just disagreed with you. Stop being such
a diva.

No need to be insulting Adam. I am not being a diva. To quote:

One thing that I would suggest (and I am sure Adam Cameron will back me up
so watch out!) is that any coding questions should be sent over to Stack
Exchange

Actually no. There’s hardly any people who use even Railo participating on
Stack Overflow. When ppl there ask Railo-specific questions, I directed
them to the Railo Google Group. I’ll be doing the same for Lucee.

That was me suggesting to post to Stack Exchange and you saying Actually
No. Now you saying we should do it (and to also post here of course)
Now you are saying exactly what I was saying (ok, replace Exchange for
Overflow and ServerFault):

I might also be good if - at least for the time being - people could ask
their Lucee coding questions on StackOverflow
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/Lucee, and their Lucee server
questions onServerFault http://serverfault.com/questions/tagged/Lucee.
Obviously cross-ref them back to hear so people know to answer the
questions, but it’ll help get Lucee exposure there too.

Fine to reverse and change opinions. No need to be insulting.> On Friday, 20 February 2015 01:04:50 UTC+13, Mark Drew wrote:
On Monday, 2 February 2015 15:59:54 UTC, Mark Drew wrote:

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Never mind, figured it out. I was installing to /lucee instead of the
default /opt/lucee. No idea why that would make a difference but
apparently it has. Permissions maybe?

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Yes it uses SELinux… or at least that’s how I had it set up. SELINUX =
enforcing. I also tried permissive and disabled with no luck. I didn’t
catch anything in the logs to be honest I was in a hurry and didn’t focus
on them for long. Is there any particular one you want to see?On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 12:55:45 PM UTC-6, Jordan Michaels wrote:

Glad you found a workaround, but I’d like to get more information on this
if possible.

  1. I don’t recall if CentOS 7 uses SELinux by default, but did you have
    that enabled when you installed?

  2. It looks like the error you pasted was the same error repeating over
    and over. Do you see anything in the logs about what triggered the
    repeating error? That would help greatly in identifying and correcting the
    issue.

I’ll run some tests on the next installer build to see if I can duplicate
and possibly correct.

Kind regards,
Jordan Michaels

----- Original Message -----
From: “Brian Kai” <bka...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
To: “Lucee” <lu...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>>
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:42:49 PM
Subject: [Lucee] StackOverflow

Been searching this group and elsewhere on Google for a solution to
this…
fresh install of CentOS 7 (no httpd, no Java, etc), fresh install of
Lucee… immediate StackOverflow error. I then tried installing with
httpd
and various versions of Java and still get that error. The only way to
stop the error is to completely remove the default source files and leave
only the index.cfm with some basic function like Now(). But even then, I
can’t get to /lucee/admin/ without that StackOverflow error.

CentOS 7.1.1503 Core and latest Lucee 4.5 (64bit).

Error: java.lang.StackOverflowError - Pastebin.com

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Glad you found a workaround, but I’d like to get more information on this if possible.

  1. I don’t recall if CentOS 7 uses SELinux by default, but did you have that enabled when you installed?

  2. It looks like the error you pasted was the same error repeating over and over. Do you see anything in the logs about what triggered the repeating error? That would help greatly in identifying and correcting the issue.

I’ll run some tests on the next installer build to see if I can duplicate and possibly correct.

Kind regards,
Jordan Michaels----- Original Message -----
From: “Brian Kai” <@Brian_Kai>
To: “Lucee” lucee@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 8:42:49 PM
Subject: [Lucee] StackOverflow

Been searching this group and elsewhere on Google for a solution to this…
fresh install of CentOS 7 (no httpd, no Java, etc), fresh install of
Lucee… immediate StackOverflow error. I then tried installing with httpd
and various versions of Java and still get that error. The only way to
stop the error is to completely remove the default source files and leave
only the index.cfm with some basic function like Now(). But even then, I
can’t get to /lucee/admin/ without that StackOverflow error.

CentOS 7.1.1503 Core and latest Lucee 4.5 (64bit).

Error: java.lang.StackOverflowError - Pastebin.com

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Been searching this group and elsewhere on Google for a solution to this…
fresh install of CentOS 7 (no httpd, no Java, etc), fresh install of
Lucee… immediate StackOverflow error. I then tried installing with httpd
and various versions of Java and still get that error. The only way to
stop the error is to completely remove the default source files and leave
only the index.cfm with some basic function like Now(). But even then, I
can’t get to /lucee/admin/ without that StackOverflow error.

CentOS 7.1.1503 Core and latest Lucee 4.5 (64bit).

Error: java.lang.StackOverflowError - Pastebin.com