Getting Lucee to work for the first time

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I’m having a heck of a time getting Lucee to run properly on Windows 8
Server and Apache 2.4 (32bit) and could sure use some guidance from the
more experience folks here. I used the windows installer, but it didn’t
seem to modify the Apache config at all. I’d really like to go the mod_cfml
path, but gave up and tried the web contexts path as well and had no luck
either way. Apache is set up properly and can server some static HTML sites
I have set up. But the furthest I’ve gotten with Lucee is seeing the Hello
Lucee screen. I can’t seem to enter a new context in the server.xml without
Lucee not starting properly afterwards.

So I guess my questions are:

What do I get from the installer if it doesn’t configure Apache (or should
it?)? Do I get nothing out of it since I’m on Windows+Apache and not the
assumed IIS?

Here’s what I have in a particular vhost in apache, and that will get me
the hello lucee screen.

Pass CFM to Tomcat/Lucee using AJP

<Proxy >
Allow from 127.0.0.1

ProxyPreserveHost On
ProxyPassMatch ^/(.+.cf[cm])(/.)?$ ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/$1$2
ProxyPassMatch ^/(.+.cfchart)(/.)?$ ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/$1$2
ProxyPassMatch ^/(.+.cfml)(/.)?$ ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/$1$2
ProxyPassReverse / ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/

The next step should be to create a web context in lucee’s server.xml,
correct?

The only thing I can think of there is that my web sites/project folders do
not live under apache/htdocs or lucee/anything. Is that going to be a
problem? It’s not for Apache, but perhaps I’m missing a pointer in Lucee.
Does Lucee completely manage Tomcat or is there a separate management for
that as well?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Doug

2

You haven’t posted what change you’re trying to make to server.xml
which stops it starting.

Also, have you checked the log files? Errors in server.xml get logged
to the catalina log - so for example if you’re adding invalid XML it’ll
tell you.

Does Lucee completely manage Tomcat or is there a separate management
for that as well?

I don’t entirely understand what you’re asking, but Lucee is a servlet
within Tomcat.

Your websites do not need to be within the Tomcat or Lucee directories
(once they are configured appropriately), however I have had issues with
Tomcat and UNC paths (network shares) before.

3

It means Apache is passing the request off to Tomcat, but Tomcat doesn’t know how to resolve that domain. Now all oyu need to do is get your changes in your server.xml correct and you’ll be good to go. Like Peter said, check the catalina.out log file in your C:\lucee\tomcat\logs directory and it will generally tell you what you did wrong.

HTH

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Subject: Re: [Lucee] getting Lucee to work for the first time

What does it mean if I’m getting the Welcome to Lucee page on my
domain/virtual host? Images are broken. I seem to have read something about
that in my searches, but don’t recall where.

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You haven’t posted what change you’re trying to make to server.xml
which stops it starting.

Simply adding a new host to the server.xml was causing Lucee to not start
up. Is this because I’m using the mod_cfml valve without knowing it?

Also, have you checked the log files? Errors in server.xml get logged
to the catalina log - so for example if you’re adding invalid XML it’ll
tell you.

I haven’t seen anything useful in the logs yet. Adding a host was pretty
basic and I was careful to make sure everything is closed properly.

Does Lucee completely manage Tomcat or is there a separate management
for that as well?

I don’t entirely understand what you’re asking, but Lucee is a servlet
within Tomcat.

Your websites do not need to be within the Tomcat or Lucee directories
(once they are configured appropriately), however I have had issues with
Tomcat and UNC paths (network shares) before.

OK, I was just asking if there’s something else to manage here that I’m not
seeing. I’ve been messing with Apache’s config and the server.xml in
addition to the Lucee admin app.

I don’t know what I’m missing in order to hook up a site from Apache to
Lucee to process the CF pages.On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:50:43 PM UTC-4, Peter Boughton wrote:

5

What does it mean if I’m getting the Welcome to Lucee page on my
domain/virtual host? Images are broken. I seem to have read something about
that in my searches, but don’t recall where.

6

OK, nevermind my last update - I deleted it because it had info for a
staging site that I didn’t want to be out there if it didn’t have to be.
I’ve got things working fairly well now. Most of my issues were on the
Apache front (the allowfilters issue causing Apache to become
unresponsive), but seemed to flare up worse when I would try to run CF
sites through Lucee. Thanks for all the help - looking in the log files did
eventually lead me to the right path to get it all working.

Now to get my development laptop (windows 7 + Apache 2.2) running Lucee…
Upon installation and manually starting the service, it won’t load the
welcome or admin screen…(sigh)

7

Doug, hopefully the guys will help you get your installation issues ironed
out. If you’re just wanting to get Lucee installed for local development
or to play around, I’d like to throw out the option of CommandBox. You can
download the 2.0 beta from the integration server which is running Lucee
4.5. Just “cd” into a folder you wish to be a web root and run “start” :slight_smile:
This won’t fix your other issues, but it’s something to keep in your back
pocket any time you want a quick, self-contained server Lucee server that
doesn’t require IIS, etc.

http://integration.stg.ortussolutions.com/artifacts/ortussolutions/commandbox/2.0.0/commandbox-win-2.0.0.zip
(35 MB)

8

Thanks. I may try that, but I’d really like to have a similar setup to my
server: Apache for Windows and Lucee. The docs and process for this
combination definitely need to be worked on. It was very frustrating
stumbling through the steps on my own, but I’m just happy it’s working now
(one place anyway).On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 5:43:21 PM UTC-4, Brad Wood wrote:

Doug, hopefully the guys will help you get your installation issues ironed
out. If you’re just wanting to get Lucee installed for local development
or to play around, I’d like to throw out the option of CommandBox. You can
download the 2.0 beta from the integration server which is running Lucee
4.5. Just “cd” into a folder you wish to be a web root and run “start” :slight_smile:
This won’t fix your other issues, but it’s something to keep in your back
pocket any time you want a quick, self-contained server Lucee server that
doesn’t require IIS, etc.

http://integration.stg.ortussolutions.com/artifacts/ortussolutions/commandbox/2.0.0/commandbox-win-2.0.0.zip
(35 MB)

9

Well I added the host entry to server.xml and had a site up for a little
while and then it stopped responding (and times out). The symptoms were
very similar to this person’s:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mod_cfml/kg1yxKzyxRg

Except that I’m running on Windows Server 2008 and Apache 2.4 instead of
IIS and I don’t have 200 sites/contexts I don’t think. How are these
determined? I did see logging about project folders that I have not even
set up host files for yet, so I’m not sure what’s going on behind the
scenes.

I also see a lot of “[mod_cfml] FATAL: Invalid DocRoot: Null or
zero-length.” in my lucee-stdout log. I upgraded to the latest JAR file
earlier today

10

No big deal I guess since either way the solution is the same, but it bugs
me to see Windows 8 Server. Windows 8 Server is not a product. The Server
equivalent of Windows 8 is 2012. You can have a Windows 8 computer that you
are using as a web server, but it’s still Windows 8.On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 4:59:45 PM UTC-5, do...@dgibson.net wrote:

I’m having a heck of a time getting Lucee to run properly on Windows 8
Server and Apache 2.4 (32bit) and could sure use some guidance from the
more experience folks here. I used the windows installer, but it didn’t
seem to modify the Apache config at all. I’d really like to go the mod_cfml
path, but gave up and tried the web contexts path as well and had no luck
either way. Apache is set up properly and can server some static HTML sites
I have set up. But the furthest I’ve gotten with Lucee is seeing the Hello
Lucee screen. I can’t seem to enter a new context in the server.xml without
Lucee not starting properly afterwards.

So I guess my questions are:

What do I get from the installer if it doesn’t configure Apache (or should
it?)? Do I get nothing out of it since I’m on Windows+Apache and not the
assumed IIS?

Here’s what I have in a particular vhost in apache, and that will get me
the hello lucee screen.

Pass CFM to Tomcat/Lucee using AJP

<Proxy >
Allow from 127.0.0.1

ProxyPreserveHost On
ProxyPassMatch ^/(.+.cf[cm])(/.)?$ ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/$1$2
ProxyPassMatch ^/(.+.cfchart)(/.)?$ ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/$1$2
ProxyPassMatch ^/(.+.cfml)(/.)?$ ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/$1$2
ProxyPassReverse / ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/

The next step should be to create a web context in lucee’s server.xml,
correct?

The only thing I can think of there is that my web sites/project folders
do not live under apache/htdocs or lucee/anything. Is that going to be a
problem? It’s not for Apache, but perhaps I’m missing a pointer in Lucee.
Does Lucee completely manage Tomcat or is there a separate management for
that as well?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Doug

11

I noticed that the mod_cfml.so module is now available on the mod_cfml
site. There aren’t any installation instructions as of yet. Do I still
configure mod_proxy and just simply enable mod_cfml.so?

T.On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 8:34:20 AM UTC-4, do...@dgibson.net wrote:

Jordan,

I’m on Apache 2.4 now, so I’m eagerly awaiting your new mod_cfml.so.

Daniel, et al, as for Apache usage, it come from habit at this point.
Around 15+ years ago or so, IIS would not let you do multiple hosts on a
non-server version. So all the devs I knew either had some host switching
scheme for IIS or used Apache. IIS was also notoriously not very secure for
a long time as well. I learned Apache and have stuck with it ever since
(even though IIS has improved a lot). Never found the time to learn Linux,
however. Too many languages/OSes/frameworks, not enough time.

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 12:17:48 AM UTC-4, Jordan Michaels wrote:

Alright. Again, note that the mod_perl requirement will be depreciated
for mod_cfml 1.1 and Apache 2.4. I don’t recall if you’re running Apache
2.4 or not but the perl module is being replaced with a native .so
module programmed in C by Paul Klinkenberg. The perl module will still
be available for users of Apache 2.2, but it will no longer be actively
developed and you’re encouraged to use Apache 2.4 if you can from here
on out.

Paul has written some documentation for compiling the new C-Module for
Windows here:

https://github.com/utdream/mod_cfml/blob/master/C/README.md

Detailed documentation will be available on the modcfml.org site in the
very near future.

Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels

On 05/27/2015 08:41 PM, do...@dgibson.net wrote:

Jordan,

Thanks for the link. I think I did run across this while trying things
out and my adventure in Perl died on step 2:

ppm install mod_perl

This failed with some error message, but I don’t recall what it was
now.
I will revisit this process and provide the details.

Thanks,
Doug

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For good measure I grabbed the 32 bit version and I got the expected not a
valid win32 application error

T.On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> wrote:

Hi Paul,

Running 64 bit Apache 2.4.9 and I downloaded the 64 bit version of
mod_CFML from the site Windows mod_cfml.so Win-httpd24-x64 (three times
to be sure). The error I’m getting from Apache on start up is:

Syntax error on line 166 of httpd.conf: Cannot load modules/mod_cfml.so
into server: The specified module could not be found. (Nothing in my
apache error log)

I’m loading the module into apache as LoadModule cfml_module
modules/mod_cfml.so.

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Paul Klinkenberg < @Paul_Klinkenberg> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Can you mail me the exact messages from the error log?
Are you sure you downloaded the right arch version: x64 or x86. It has to
match the Apache install, not your windows install.

Kind regards,

Paul Klinkenberg

Op 28 mei 2015, om 15:10 heeft Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> het
volgende geschreven:

I’ve tried to apply the mod_cfml.so on Windows 2012 running Apache 2.4.9
and Apache says it cannot find the module. The module is in the appropriate
directory.

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> wrote:

I noticed that the mod_cfml.so module is now available on the mod_cfml
site. There aren’t any installation instructions as of yet. Do I still
configure mod_proxy and just simply enable mod_cfml.so?

T.

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 8:34:20 AM UTC-4, do...@dgibson.net wrote:

Jordan,

I’m on Apache 2.4 now, so I’m eagerly awaiting your new mod_cfml.so.

Daniel, et al, as for Apache usage, it come from habit at this point.
Around 15+ years ago or so, IIS would not let you do multiple hosts on a
non-server version. So all the devs I knew either had some host switching
scheme for IIS or used Apache. IIS was also notoriously not very secure for
a long time as well. I learned Apache and have stuck with it ever since
(even though IIS has improved a lot). Never found the time to learn Linux,
however. Too many languages/OSes/frameworks, not enough time.

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 12:17:48 AM UTC-4, Jordan Michaels wrote:

Alright. Again, note that the mod_perl requirement will be depreciated
for mod_cfml 1.1 and Apache 2.4. I don’t recall if you’re running
Apache
2.4 or not but the perl module is being replaced with a native .so
module programmed in C by Paul Klinkenberg. The perl module will still
be available for users of Apache 2.2, but it will no longer be
actively
developed and you’re encouraged to use Apache 2.4 if you can from here
on out.

Paul has written some documentation for compiling the new C-Module for
Windows here:

https://github.com/utdream/mod_cfml/blob/master/C/README.md

Detailed documentation will be available on the modcfml.org site in
the
very near future.

Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels

On 05/27/2015 08:41 PM, do...@dgibson.net wrote:

Jordan,

Thanks for the link. I think I did run across this while trying
things
out and my adventure in Perl died on step 2:

ppm install mod_perl

This failed with some error message, but I don’t recall what it was
now.
I will revisit this process and provide the details.

Thanks,
Doug

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Followed the documentation to the letter and it’s still throwing the same
error.

Win server 2012
Apache 2.4.9 (64 bit)
Tomcat 7
Lucee 4.5.1

Any thoughts?On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> wrote:

Same error.

I updated the LoadModule line to LoadModule modcfml_module
modules/mod_cfml.so.

No documentation at
http://www.modcfml.org/index.cfm/documentation/modcfml-so-apache-module/.
Is it elsewhere?

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Paul Klinkenberg < @Paul_Klinkenberg> wrote:

Instead of “cfml_module”, use “modcfml_module”.
The updated documentation is online now at modcfml.org

Vriendelijke groeten,

Paul Klinkenberg

Op 28 mei 2015 om 16:58 heeft Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> het
volgende geschreven:

For good measure I grabbed the 32 bit version and I got the expected not
a valid win32 application error

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> wrote:

Hi Paul,

Running 64 bit Apache 2.4.9 and I downloaded the 64 bit version of
mod_CFML from the site Windows mod_cfml.so Win-httpd24-x64 (three
times to be sure). The error I’m getting from Apache on start up is:

Syntax error on line 166 of httpd.conf: Cannot load modules/mod_cfml.so
into server: The specified module could not be found. (Nothing in my
apache error log)

I’m loading the module into apache as LoadModule cfml_module
modules/mod_cfml.so.

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Paul Klinkenberg < @Paul_Klinkenberg> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Can you mail me the exact messages from the error log?
Are you sure you downloaded the right arch version: x64 or x86. It has
to match the Apache install, not your windows install.

Kind regards,

Paul Klinkenberg

Op 28 mei 2015, om 15:10 heeft Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> het
volgende geschreven:

I’ve tried to apply the mod_cfml.so on Windows 2012 running Apache
2.4.9 and Apache says it cannot find the module. The module is in the
appropriate directory.

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> wrote:

I noticed that the mod_cfml.so module is now available on the mod_cfml
site. There aren’t any installation instructions as of yet. Do I still
configure mod_proxy and just simply enable mod_cfml.so?

T.

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 8:34:20 AM UTC-4, do...@dgibson.net wrote:

Jordan,

I’m on Apache 2.4 now, so I’m eagerly awaiting your new mod_cfml.so.

Daniel, et al, as for Apache usage, it come from habit at this point.
Around 15+ years ago or so, IIS would not let you do multiple hosts on a
non-server version. So all the devs I knew either had some host switching
scheme for IIS or used Apache. IIS was also notoriously not very secure for
a long time as well. I learned Apache and have stuck with it ever since
(even though IIS has improved a lot). Never found the time to learn Linux,
however. Too many languages/OSes/frameworks, not enough time.

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 12:17:48 AM UTC-4, Jordan Michaels wrote:

Alright. Again, note that the mod_perl requirement will be
depreciated
for mod_cfml 1.1 and Apache 2.4. I don’t recall if you’re running
Apache
2.4 or not but the perl module is being replaced with a native .so
module programmed in C by Paul Klinkenberg. The perl module will
still
be available for users of Apache 2.2, but it will no longer be
actively
developed and you’re encouraged to use Apache 2.4 if you can from
here
on out.

Paul has written some documentation for compiling the new C-Module
for
Windows here:

https://github.com/utdream/mod_cfml/blob/master/C/README.md

Detailed documentation will be available on the modcfml.org site in
the
very near future.

Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels

On 05/27/2015 08:41 PM, do...@dgibson.net wrote:

Jordan,

Thanks for the link. I think I did run across this while trying
things
out and my adventure in Perl died on step 2:

ppm install mod_perl

This failed with some error message, but I don’t recall what it
was now.
I will revisit this process and provide the details.

Thanks,
Doug

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Hi Tim,

The documentation now finally is online… Turned out the documentation sub pages still had “Display: no” in their settings. Why I missed that, dunno.
Aah, I see you noticed already :slight_smile:

As a first hunch, could file download security be in place? As in, that the system does not allow the file to be opened, because it was downloaded. Just a hunch, not using windows much.
Also, can you please try the zipped version, as it hasn’t gone through the web browser.

Can you give me some extra info? Things to check:
The size in bytes of your current mod_cfml.so
Check Apache version, arch, and where it was built
in cmd window: [path to apache 2.4]/bin/httpd.exe -V

Hope we can fix it!

Kind regards,

Paul KlinkenbergOp 28 mei 2015, om 17:14 heeft Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> het volgende geschreven:

Same error.

I updated the LoadModule line to LoadModule modcfml_module modules/mod_cfml.so.

No documentation at http://www.modcfml.org/index.cfm/documentation/modcfml-so-apache-module/ http://www.modcfml.org/index.cfm/documentation/modcfml-so-apache-module/. Is it elsewhere?

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Paul Klinkenberg <@Paul_Klinkenberg mailto:Paul_Klinkenberg> wrote:
Instead of “cfml_module”, use “modcfml_module”.
The updated documentation is online now at modcfml.org http://modcfml.org/

Vriendelijke groeten,

Paul Klinkenberg

Op 28 mei 2015 om 16:58 heeft Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler mailto:Tim_Bugler> het volgende geschreven:

For good measure I grabbed the 32 bit version and I got the expected not a valid win32 application error

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler mailto:Tim_Bugler> wrote:
Hi Paul,

Running 64 bit Apache 2.4.9 and I downloaded the 64 bit version of mod_CFML from the site Windows mod_cfml.so Win-httpd24-x64 (three times to be sure). The error I’m getting from Apache on start up is:

Syntax error on line 166 of httpd.conf: Cannot load modules/mod_cfml.so into server: The specified module could not be found. (Nothing in my apache error log)

I’m loading the module into apache as LoadModule cfml_module modules/mod_cfml.so.

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Paul Klinkenberg <@Paul_Klinkenberg mailto:Paul_Klinkenberg> wrote:
Hi Tim,

Can you mail me the exact messages from the error log?
Are you sure you downloaded the right arch version: x64 or x86. It has to match the Apache install, not your windows install.

Kind regards,

Paul Klinkenberg

Op 28 mei 2015, om 15:10 heeft Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler mailto:Tim_Bugler> het volgende geschreven:

I’ve tried to apply the mod_cfml.so on Windows 2012 running Apache 2.4.9 and Apache says it cannot find the module. The module is in the appropriate directory.

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler mailto:Tim_Bugler> wrote:
I noticed that the mod_cfml.so module is now available on the mod_cfml site. There aren’t any installation instructions as of yet. Do I still configure mod_proxy and just simply enable mod_cfml.so?

T.

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 8:34:20 AM UTC-4, do...@dgibson.net mailto:do...@dgibson.net wrote:
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I’m on Apache 2.4 now, so I’m eagerly awaiting your new mod_cfml.so.

Daniel, et al, as for Apache usage, it come from habit at this point. Around 15+ years ago or so, IIS would not let you do multiple hosts on a non-server version. So all the devs I knew either had some host switching scheme for IIS or used Apache. IIS was also notoriously not very secure for a long time as well. I learned Apache and have stuck with it ever since (even though IIS has improved a lot). Never found the time to learn Linux, however. Too many languages/OSes/frameworks, not enough time.

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 12:17:48 AM UTC-4, Jordan Michaels wrote:
Alright. Again, note that the mod_perl requirement will be depreciated
for mod_cfml 1.1 and Apache 2.4. I don’t recall if you’re running Apache
2.4 or not but the perl module is being replaced with a native .so
module programmed in C by Paul Klinkenberg. The perl module will still
be available for users of Apache 2.2, but it will no longer be actively
developed and you’re encouraged to use Apache 2.4 if you can from here
on out.

Paul has written some documentation for compiling the new C-Module for
Windows here:

https://github.com/utdream/mod_cfml/blob/master/C/README.md https://github.com/utdream/mod_cfml/blob/master/C/README.md

Detailed documentation will be available on the modcfml.org http://modcfml.org/ site in the
very near future.

Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels

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Jordan,

Thanks for the link. I think I did run across this while trying things
out and my adventure in Perl died on step 2:

ppm install mod_perl

This failed with some error message, but I don’t recall what it was now.
I will revisit this process and provide the details.

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Alright. Again, note that the mod_perl requirement will be depreciated
for mod_cfml 1.1 and Apache 2.4. I don’t recall if you’re running Apache
2.4 or not but the perl module is being replaced with a native .so
module programmed in C by Paul Klinkenberg. The perl module will still
be available for users of Apache 2.2, but it will no longer be actively
developed and you’re encouraged to use Apache 2.4 if you can from here
on out.

Paul has written some documentation for compiling the new C-Module for
Windows here:

Detailed documentation will be available on the modcfml.org site in the
very near future.

Warm Regards,
Jordan MichaelsOn 05/27/2015 08:41 PM, @doug wrote:

Jordan,

Thanks for the link. I think I did run across this while trying things
out and my adventure in Perl died on step 2:

ppm install mod_perl

This failed with some error message, but I don’t recall what it was now.
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Same error.

I updated the LoadModule line to LoadModule modcfml_module
modules/mod_cfml.so.

No documentation at
http://www.modcfml.org/index.cfm/documentation/modcfml-so-apache-module/.
Is it elsewhere?

T.On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Paul Klinkenberg <@Paul_Klinkenberg wrote:

Instead of “cfml_module”, use “modcfml_module”.
The updated documentation is online now at modcfml.org

Vriendelijke groeten,

Paul Klinkenberg

Op 28 mei 2015 om 16:58 heeft Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> het
volgende geschreven:

For good measure I grabbed the 32 bit version and I got the expected not
a valid win32 application error

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> wrote:

Hi Paul,

Running 64 bit Apache 2.4.9 and I downloaded the 64 bit version of
mod_CFML from the site Windows mod_cfml.so Win-httpd24-x64 (three
times to be sure). The error I’m getting from Apache on start up is:

Syntax error on line 166 of httpd.conf: Cannot load modules/mod_cfml.so
into server: The specified module could not be found. (Nothing in my
apache error log)

I’m loading the module into apache as LoadModule cfml_module
modules/mod_cfml.so.

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Paul Klinkenberg < @Paul_Klinkenberg> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Can you mail me the exact messages from the error log?
Are you sure you downloaded the right arch version: x64 or x86. It has
to match the Apache install, not your windows install.

Kind regards,

Paul Klinkenberg

Op 28 mei 2015, om 15:10 heeft Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> het
volgende geschreven:

I’ve tried to apply the mod_cfml.so on Windows 2012 running Apache 2.4.9
and Apache says it cannot find the module. The module is in the appropriate
directory.

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> wrote:

I noticed that the mod_cfml.so module is now available on the mod_cfml
site. There aren’t any installation instructions as of yet. Do I still
configure mod_proxy and just simply enable mod_cfml.so?

T.

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 8:34:20 AM UTC-4, do...@dgibson.net wrote:

Jordan,

I’m on Apache 2.4 now, so I’m eagerly awaiting your new mod_cfml.so.

Daniel, et al, as for Apache usage, it come from habit at this point.
Around 15+ years ago or so, IIS would not let you do multiple hosts on a
non-server version. So all the devs I knew either had some host switching
scheme for IIS or used Apache. IIS was also notoriously not very secure for
a long time as well. I learned Apache and have stuck with it ever since
(even though IIS has improved a lot). Never found the time to learn Linux,
however. Too many languages/OSes/frameworks, not enough time.

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 12:17:48 AM UTC-4, Jordan Michaels wrote:

Alright. Again, note that the mod_perl requirement will be
depreciated
for mod_cfml 1.1 and Apache 2.4. I don’t recall if you’re running
Apache
2.4 or not but the perl module is being replaced with a native .so
module programmed in C by Paul Klinkenberg. The perl module will
still
be available for users of Apache 2.2, but it will no longer be
actively
developed and you’re encouraged to use Apache 2.4 if you can from
here
on out.

Paul has written some documentation for compiling the new C-Module
for
Windows here:

https://github.com/utdream/mod_cfml/blob/master/C/README.md

Detailed documentation will be available on the modcfml.org site in
the
very near future.

Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels

On 05/27/2015 08:41 PM, do...@dgibson.net wrote:

Jordan,

Thanks for the link. I think I did run across this while trying
things
out and my adventure in Perl died on step 2:

ppm install mod_perl

This failed with some error message, but I don’t recall what it was
now.
I will revisit this process and provide the details.

Thanks,
Doug

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Hi Tim,

For the sake of being thorough, can you tell us exactly where you placed the 64-bit .so file? Also, did you ensure the permissions of the mod_cfml.so were the same as the other .so’s in that directory?

Thanks for your help here. Just trying to cover all bases.

-Jordan----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 9:07:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Lucee] getting Lucee to work for the first time

Hi Paul,

File size is 28 KB

Server version: Apache/2.4.9 (Win64)
Apache Lounge VC11 Server built: Mar 16 2014 12:42:59
Server’s Module Magic Number: 20120211:31
Server loaded: APR 1.5.0, APR-UTIL 1.5.3
Compiled using: APR 1.5.0, APR-UTIL 1.5.3
Architecture: 64-bit
Server MPM: WinNT
threaded: yes (fixed thread count)
forked: no
Server compiled with…
-D APR_HAS_SENDFILE
-D APR_HAS_MMAP
-D APR_HAVE_IPV6 (IPv4-mapped addresses disabled)
-D APR_HAS_OTHER_CHILD
-D AP_HAVE_RELIABLE_PIPED_LOGS
-D DYNAMIC_MODULE_LIMIT=256
-D HTTPD_ROOT=“/apache”
-D SUEXEC_BIN=“/apache/bin/suexec”
-D DEFAULT_PIDLOG=“logs/httpd.pid”
-D DEFAULT_SCOREBOARD=“logs/apache_runtime_status”
-D DEFAULT_ERRORLOG=“logs/error.log”
-D AP_TYPES_CONFIG_FILE=“conf/mime.types”
-D SERVER_CONFIG_FILE=“conf/httpd.conf”

Same error with the zipped version.

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Paul Klinkenberg <@Paul_Klinkenberg wrote:

Hi Tim,

The documentation now finally is online… Turned out the documentation
sub pages still had “Display: no” in their settings. Why I missed that,
dunno.
Aah, I see you noticed already :slight_smile:

As a first hunch, could file download security be in place? As in, that
the system does not allow the file to be opened, because it was downloaded.
Just a hunch, not using windows much.
Also, can you please try the zipped version, as it hasn’t gone through the
web browser.

Can you give me some extra info? Things to check:

  • The size in bytes of your current mod_cfml.so
  • Check Apache version, arch, and where it was built
    • in cmd window: [path to apache 2.4]/bin/httpd.exe -V

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Hope we can fix it!

Kind regards,

Paul Klinkenberg

Op 28 mei 2015, om 17:14 heeft Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> het
volgende geschreven:

Same error.

I updated the LoadModule line to LoadModule modcfml_module
modules/mod_cfml.so.

No documentation at
http://www.modcfml.org/index.cfm/documentation/modcfml-so-apache-module/.
Is it elsewhere?

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Paul Klinkenberg < @Paul_Klinkenberg> wrote:

Instead of “cfml_module”, use “modcfml_module”.
The updated documentation is online now at modcfml.org

Vriendelijke groeten,

Paul Klinkenberg

Op 28 mei 2015 om 16:58 heeft Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> het
volgende geschreven:

For good measure I grabbed the 32 bit version and I got the expected not
a valid win32 application error

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> wrote:

Hi Paul,

Running 64 bit Apache 2.4.9 and I downloaded the 64 bit version of
mod_CFML from the site Windows mod_cfml.so Win-httpd24-x64 (three
times to be sure). The error I’m getting from Apache on start up is:

Syntax error on line 166 of httpd.conf: Cannot load modules/mod_cfml.so
into server: The specified module could not be found. (Nothing in my
apache error log)

I’m loading the module into apache as LoadModule cfml_module
modules/mod_cfml.so.

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Paul Klinkenberg < @Paul_Klinkenberg> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Can you mail me the exact messages from the error log?
Are you sure you downloaded the right arch version: x64 or x86. It has
to match the Apache install, not your windows install.

Kind regards,

Paul Klinkenberg

Op 28 mei 2015, om 15:10 heeft Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> het
volgende geschreven:

I’ve tried to apply the mod_cfml.so on Windows 2012 running Apache
2.4.9 and Apache says it cannot find the module. The module is in the
appropriate directory.

T.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Tim Bugler <@Tim_Bugler> wrote:

I noticed that the mod_cfml.so module is now available on the mod_cfml
site. There aren’t any installation instructions as of yet. Do I still
configure mod_proxy and just simply enable mod_cfml.so?

T.

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 8:34:20 AM UTC-4, do...@dgibson.net wrote:

Jordan,

I’m on Apache 2.4 now, so I’m eagerly awaiting your new mod_cfml.so.

Daniel, et al, as for Apache usage, it come from habit at this point.
Around 15+ years ago or so, IIS would not let you do multiple hosts on a
non-server version. So all the devs I knew either had some host switching
scheme for IIS or used Apache. IIS was also notoriously not very secure for
a long time as well. I learned Apache and have stuck with it ever since
(even though IIS has improved a lot). Never found the time to learn Linux,
however. Too many languages/OSes/frameworks, not enough time.

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 12:17:48 AM UTC-4, Jordan Michaels wrote:

Alright. Again, note that the mod_perl requirement will be
depreciated
for mod_cfml 1.1 and Apache 2.4. I don’t recall if you’re running
Apache
2.4 or not but the perl module is being replaced with a native .so
module programmed in C by Paul Klinkenberg. The perl module will
still
be available for users of Apache 2.2, but it will no longer be
actively
developed and you’re encouraged to use Apache 2.4 if you can from
here
on out.

Paul has written some documentation for compiling the new C-Module
for
Windows here:

https://github.com/utdream/mod_cfml/blob/master/C/README.md

Detailed documentation will be available on the modcfml.org site in
the
very near future.

Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels

On 05/27/2015 08:41 PM, do...@dgibson.net wrote:

Jordan,

Thanks for the link. I think I did run across this while trying
things
out and my adventure in Perl died on step 2:

ppm install mod_perl

This failed with some error message, but I don’t recall what it
was now.
I will revisit this process and provide the details.

Thanks,
Doug

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Maybe this is a naive question, but why doesn’t the Windows installer
configure Apache (optionally) & mod_cfml? This stuff’s a no brainer on
Linux: You install, add a simple virtual host with nothing special in it,
and you’re up and running. Is the Win/Apache combo thought to be unusual
(and/or a PITA to support)?

I do my development on Linux (most recently, via Vagrant), but Windows devs
who target Linux servers often run Apache locally. (Well, in my circles,
they do.)On May 26, 2015 5:59 PM, <@doug> wrote:

I’m having a heck of a time getting Lucee to run properly on Windows 8
Server and Apache 2.4 (32bit) and could sure use some guidance from the
more experience folks here. I used the windows installer, but it didn’t
seem to modify the Apache config at all. I’d really like to go the mod_cfml
path, but gave up and tried the web contexts path as well and had no luck
either way. Apache is set up properly and can server some static HTML sites
I have set up. But the furthest I’ve gotten with Lucee is seeing the Hello
Lucee screen. I can’t seem to enter a new context in the server.xml without
Lucee not starting properly afterwards.

So I guess my questions are:

What do I get from the installer if it doesn’t configure Apache (or should
it?)? Do I get nothing out of it since I’m on Windows+Apache and not the
assumed IIS?

Here’s what I have in a particular vhost in apache, and that will get me
the hello lucee screen.

Pass CFM to Tomcat/Lucee using AJP

<Proxy >
Allow from 127.0.0.1

ProxyPreserveHost On
ProxyPassMatch ^/(.+.cf[cm])(/.)?$ ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/$1$2
ProxyPassMatch ^/(.+.cfchart)(/.)?$ ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/$1$2
ProxyPassMatch ^/(.+.cfml)(/.)?$ ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/$1$2
ProxyPassReverse / ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/

The next step should be to create a web context in lucee’s server.xml,
correct?

The only thing I can think of there is that my web sites/project folders
do not live under apache/htdocs or lucee/anything. Is that going to be a
problem? It’s not for Apache, but perhaps I’m missing a pointer in Lucee.
Does Lucee completely manage Tomcat or is there a separate management for
that as well?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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Jordan,

I’m on Apache 2.4 now, so I’m eagerly awaiting your new mod_cfml.so.

Daniel, et al, as for Apache usage, it come from habit at this point.
Around 15+ years ago or so, IIS would not let you do multiple hosts on a
non-server version. So all the devs I knew either had some host switching
scheme for IIS or used Apache. IIS was also notoriously not very secure for
a long time as well. I learned Apache and have stuck with it ever since
(even though IIS has improved a lot). Never found the time to learn Linux,
however. Too many languages/OSes/frameworks, not enough time.On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 12:17:48 AM UTC-4, Jordan Michaels wrote:

Alright. Again, note that the mod_perl requirement will be depreciated
for mod_cfml 1.1 and Apache 2.4. I don’t recall if you’re running Apache
2.4 or not but the perl module is being replaced with a native .so
module programmed in C by Paul Klinkenberg. The perl module will still
be available for users of Apache 2.2, but it will no longer be actively
developed and you’re encouraged to use Apache 2.4 if you can from here
on out.

Paul has written some documentation for compiling the new C-Module for
Windows here:

https://github.com/utdream/mod_cfml/blob/master/C/README.md

Detailed documentation will be available on the modcfml.org site in the
very near future.

Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels

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Jordan,

Thanks for the link. I think I did run across this while trying things
out and my adventure in Perl died on step 2:

ppm install mod_perl

This failed with some error message, but I don’t recall what it was now.
I will revisit this process and provide the details.

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hmm, sorry. it might be a local habit but all of my decentralized working
colleagues use Windows and Apache.True. Because there is nothing wrong with
Win8 for coding. But most people I know don^t want to fiddle around with
IIS. I personally use now win/apache for around 15 years.

The reason might be that there are mainly linux machines on production.

Thus support for Win/Apache is most welcome.

DanielAm Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015 05:18:18 UTC+2 schrieb Igal:

From what I’ve seen personally the vast majority of folks who run Windows simply use IIS. If I had to put a number on it, I’d say well above 90 percent…

+1

Igal Sapir
Lucee Core Developer
Lucee.org http://lucee.org/
On 5/27/2015 8:01 PM, Jordan Michaels wrote:

From what I’ve seen personally the vast majority of folks who run Windows simply use IIS. If I had to put a number on it, I’d say well above 90 percent…

From what I hear, the new, up-and-coming installers are supposed to include Apache on Windows support, but, I haven’t seen them yet, so I’m not sure. Would love to see them, honestly.

-Jordan

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From: “Jamie Jackson” jami...@gmail.com <javascript:>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 7:15:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Lucee] getting Lucee to work for the first time

Maybe this is a naive question, but why doesn’t the Windows installer
configure Apache (optionally) & mod_cfml? This stuff’s a no brainer on
Linux: You install, add a simple virtual host with nothing special in it,
and you’re up and running. Is the Win/Apache combo thought to be unusual
(and/or a PITA to support)?

I do my development on Linux (most recently, via Vagrant), but Windows devs
who target Linux servers often run Apache locally. (Well, in my circles,
they do.)
On May 26, 2015 5:59 PM, d...@dgibson.net <javascript:> wrote:

I’m having a heck of a time getting Lucee to run properly on Windows 8
Server and Apache 2.4 (32bit) and could sure use some guidance from the
more experience folks here. I used the windows installer, but it didn’t
seem to modify the Apache config at all. I’d really like to go the mod_cfml
path, but gave up and tried the web contexts path as well and had no luck
either way. Apache is set up properly and can server some static HTML sites
I have set up. But the furthest I’ve gotten with Lucee is seeing the Hello
Lucee screen. I can’t seem to enter a new context in the server.xml without
Lucee not starting properly afterwards.

So I guess my questions are:

What do I get from the installer if it doesn’t configure Apache (or should
it?)? Do I get nothing out of it since I’m on Windows+Apache and not the
assumed IIS?

Here’s what I have in a particular vhost in apache, and that will get me
the hello lucee screen.

Pass CFM to Tomcat/Lucee using AJP

<Proxy >
Allow from 127.0.0.1

ProxyPreserveHost On
ProxyPassMatch ^/(.+.cf[cm])(/.)?$ ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/$1$2
ProxyPassMatch ^/(.+.cfchart)(/.)?$ ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/$1$2
ProxyPassMatch ^/(.+.cfml)(/.)?$ ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/$1$2
ProxyPassReverse / ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/

The next step should be to create a web context in lucee’s server.xml,
correct?

The only thing I can think of there is that my web sites/project folders
do not live under apache/htdocs or lucee/anything. Is that going to be a
problem? It’s not for Apache, but perhaps I’m missing a pointer in Lucee.
Does Lucee completely manage Tomcat or is there a separate management for
that as well?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Doug

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